Here is what I see as the case for and against a second dip. As you will see, I am more skeptical about the case against. Maybe someone can tell me what I have overlooked or how I am being too pessimistic.
The Case for a Second Dip
- The Fed’s policy of quantitative easing, which was temporarily buttressing demand, is over, and its impact will likely decline over time, imparting a downward bias to growth in the coming quarters.
- This fiscal stimulus, which was temporarily buttressing demand, has been largely exhausted and has likely reached its point of peak impact (even if additional fiscal measures are taken), so that its impact will be declining in the coming quarters, imparting a downward bias to growth.
- Pent-up demand from consumers (many of whom were worried about the losing their jobs last year but no longer are) has been largely exhausted, and its impact will likely decline over time, imparting a downward bias to growth in the coming quarters.
- The process of inventory adjustment has run its course, and firms have been able to increase production again to maintain inventories at the new, lower level and to begin slightly increasing inventories in anticipation of a recovery. Significant increases in production are no longer necessary to maintain inventories, so that an upward bias that has been imparted to growth in recent quarters will no longer be present in future quarters.
- With the dollar relatively strong again and the pace of world recovery expected to slow, export growth, which had offered the possibility of a robust recovery, no longer seems to offer that possibility.
- Normally, the surge in productivity at the beginning of a recovery is followed by a surge in employment. They typical lag is about two quarters. Last year’s surge in productivity took place over the last three quarters of the year, which suggests that a surge in employment should have taken place beginning in the last quarter of last year and continuing through the current quarter. Aside from temporary census employment, the anticipated surge does not appear to be taking place. Meanwhile, productivity growth has settled back into the normal range, which dampens hope for a future surge in employment.
- The Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010, creating an incentive for high-income individuals (and their corporate agents) to shift income out of 2011 into 2010. To the extent that they are successful in doing so, and to the extent that the shifted income is associated with actual economic activity taking place during the period in which it is declared, we should expect a downward bias to growth between 2010 and 2011. (This point comes from a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed by Arthur Laffer, to which a colleague referred me. People who know my work well know that I have had my quarrels with Arthur Laffer in the past, but in this case, I don’t see any fundamental flaw in his argument.)
- Given all these negatives, there is no evidence of any positive stimulus to growth that would offset them. The financial panic of late 2008 subsided long ago, and the residual financial weakness is lifting very slowly, with no suggestion that the pace of improvement will accelerate, especially in the light of potential fallout from financial difficulties in Europe. With capital ratios still an issue, the current regulatory environment is not conducive to rapid increases in bank lending.
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- In the years since the Great Depression, there is no precedent for a long recession (longer than 8 months, in this case about 18 months) followed by a short recovery (shorter than 35 months). The two closest “double dip” examples (both with first dips lasting 8 months or less) are 1980 – when the second dip was essentially intentional on the part of the Fed – and 1960 – when the economy had already made nearly a full recovery by the time the new dip happened. On the other hand, double dips appear to have been fairly common in the years before the Great Depression, so the validity of this piece of evidence depends on the premise that something (the fixed gold standard?) fundamentally changed in the 1930’s and has not since reverted.
- Recessions seldom begin when the unemployment rate is already high. In particular, since the end of the Great Depression, we have not seen a recession begin with an unemployment rate greater than 7.5 percent. (Today it is 9.7 percent.) Having said that, though, I should note that the second dip of the Great Depression began with an unemployment rate of over 14 percent. (Presumably the reason this happened in the 1930’s is that fiscal and monetary policy were tightened, whereas in subsequent cycles fiscal and monetary policy have generally been loosened when the unemployment rate remained very high. Unfortunately, in the light of the first two points adduced in favor of a second dip, this contrast doesn’t bode well for the immediate future.)
- Recessions are normally preceded by stock market declines of greater severity than what we have seen recently. (Of course, if your concern is whether to own stock, the fact that the stock market has not yet had a large decline isn’t much of a comfort.)
- Credit spreads do not suggest a high risk of recession. (Again, if your concern is whether to own bonds, this is not much comfort. But perhaps the stock and bond markets should find each other’s lack of severe concern reassuring.)
- The price of oil has been reasonably stable, not exhibiting the sort of spike that has helped induce most of the post-WWII recessions. (However, since the second dip, if it happens, is likely to have deflationary characteristics, we need to be concerned that any lack of strength in commodities such as oil could be in anticipation of a second dip.)
- The yield curve (difference between long-term and short-term interest rates) is unusually steep. Recessions normally begin with a flat yield curve. Short-term interest rates normally fall during a recession, whereas a steep yield curve suggests rather that short-term rates are expected to rise. However, as Paul Krugman points out, this usual interpretation doesn’t apply now. If there is a second dip, short-term rates will not fall, because there is nowhere down for them to go. Under these circumstances, the steep yield curve likely only indicates the possibility of a rise in short-term rates (without the offsetting possibility of a fall), not the likelihood of a rise. In fact, it could be argued that the steep yield curve is reason to worry more about a second dip: in linear models, a false signal from the unusually steep yield curve could easily outweigh other indicators that are showing valid, but less intense, signs of trouble. (For example, the stock market hasn’t declined dramatically, but it has declined. Should we be worried? Ordinarily, with such a steep yield curve, the answer would be an unambiguous “no.” Today, we’re likely to hear that “no” from linear models, but it could well be based on a single indicator giving a flawed signal.)
It’s possible that the case for a second dip is basically right but that we still don’t technically get one. With normal productivity growth and population growth, we could have a severe slowdown, involving maybe one quarter of negative growth, or two quarters of very slightly negative growth, or three quarters of very slightly positive growth, and it might not qualify as a recession. Obviously, it would still suck.
What worries me particularly is that, even if the case for a second dip is completely wrong, the employment picture going forward is still dismal, and there is still a case for deflation. Am I wrong in understanding that this is standard textbook macroeconomics? There is a non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment (NAIRU). When the actual unemployment rate is above the NAIRU, the inflation rate declines. The further the unemployment rate is above the NAIRU, the more quickly the inflation rate declines. The unemployment rate is currently 9.7% and is not expected to fall rapidly, even under optimistic scenarios. Recent estimates put the NAIRU at about 5%. The current core CPI inflation rate is about 1%. You do the math.
FOOTNOTE: Well, OK, technically you can’t do the math, since I didn’t give you a Phillips curve coefficient. From what I can tell, Phillips curve coefficients are all over the map these days, with some people arguing that the coefficient is zero as long as monetary policy is credible. (But is monetary policy really credible?) At the other end of the spectrum, coefficients with magnitude as high as 0.5 (implying a half percentage point decline in the inflation rate each year for every percentage point that the unemployment rate is above the NAIRU) seem to be well within the mainstream. I recommend against doing the math with that coefficient if you have a heart condition.
DISCLOSURE: Through my investment and management role in a Treasury directional pooled investment vehicle and through my role as Chief Economist at Atlantic Asset Management, which generally manages fixed income portfolios for its clients, I have direct or indirect interests in various fixed income instruments, which may be impacted by the issues discussed herein. The views expressed herein are entirely my own opinions and may not represent the views of Atlantic Asset Management.
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This post brings up the question that every market in the world is waiting to hear the answer to.
Using Economic theory to analysis this question, instead of just news or speculation is the right approach. I am going to start reading your blog.
You have a lot of pros and cons but the open question is which of these points carry the greatest weight?
For me I would say:
Temporary fiscal policies and Bush's tax cuts expiring are pretty strong enough to argue for a second dip alone.
However, the real question is about markets and economics, not about government intervention.
The question is have the markets adjusted? Have markets been allowed to adjust or just held up? Have the markets been allowed to adjust to correct the current disequalibrium or has time just gone buy and everyone is saying it must change?
I think it is about markets and prices. Prices and wages are downwardly rigid and government policies if anything have slowed the natural market valuation process.
Markets have not adjusted fully and we will be stuck in a longer-term disqualibrium. Maybe not a second dip (as you stated unemployment is already high). But the economy will not experience any kind of special growth until entrepreneurs find a way to lead us out of disequalibrium.
AH: "It’s possible that the case for a second dip is basically right but that we still don’t technically get one."
I think it is a very likely scenario.
A jobless recovery is a policy equilibrium - the Fed and the Congress can do much more (a bigger deficit, a higher inflation target and more asset purchases), but these are risky policy options and as long as the economy is in some sort of a recovery there is not enough pressure to use them.
However, if there is a real threat of a new recession, the fiscal and monetary policy will respond to this threat and the economy will return to a state of jobless recovery.
I personally am on the side of a second dip being likely but I think the Bush tax cuts is absolutely minor.
The people most affected by those cuts do not vary their consumption of things very much, they buy what they want always and everywhere. As things get cheaper they will buy more not less, if there is any significant change.
Laffer is a hammer that thinks everything looks like a nail. A one mantra economist.
I have been thinking lately that what we should be tracking is not recessions in the traditional sense, but whether or not employment is keeping up with population growth. It seems to me that is what we should be worried about, because if job growth isn't keeping up with population growth we are not really growing as a society.
By that measure we are still in trouble and haven't even gotten out of the first dip.
Using Wynne Godley's sectoral balance approach to macro, which was highly accurate in predicting events in the US, UK, and EZ, the global economy is heading for a double dip — and possibly spiraling deflation — if fiscal policy is tightened, no matter what happens with monetary policy. The current political climate is not heartening, in that it seems fiscal policy cannot be loosened sufficiently to right the sectoral imbalance that already exists. Tightening would push things over the edge and it would likely be GDII as deflation takes hold.
Greg, the argument that Laffer makes about the Bush tax cuts is not about consumption but about income. Technically, it's a supply-side effect (people will choose to earn more income in 2010 than in 2011), but since we're talking about people who potentially own businesses, the supply-side effect has demand-side implications. If you have a project to do that will earn you money (and typically will employ someone else in the process), you will choose to do it in 2010 rather than 2011 if you can. I have been quite skeptical of the argument that the absolute level of federal marginal tax rates matters very much, but I do think that relative marginal tax rates -- between one year and the next, between one state and another, etc. -- matter. When the substitution is easy to do, people will choose to do things the cheaper way.
It seems the cons are based in fundamental analysis (current events), and the pros are technical analysis (past patterns/trends). That's scary because we all now that every pattern will have its day.
Thanks for the response Andy
I still have a hard time thinking that the effect could be that large. While one particular guy might make that type of decision, from a macro perspective is there any chance that money will be left on the table? If there are customers in 2011 for a certain thing someone will produce it, regardless of what the tax rate is. If they can generate more income they will.
Someone moving something up to 2010 assumes there are actually things they can do now, and if those things exist why would anyone have wanted to wait til 2011 to do it. Laffer seems to believe that business owners would intentionally leave money on the table now (for someone else) while waiting for 2011 to get theirs. This seems absolutely stupid, and I have no doubt that there are individuals who would act in such a stupid manner. I just refuse to believe that the "market" as a whole could or would act that way.
Laffer wants us to believe that the market as a whole would say "I'm not going to go after that extra 100k of business now because I'll only keep 62k of it this year. Last year I would have kept 65k. THAT would have been worth my while" I say if there is a net 62k to be made someone will do it.
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